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By chrismills O anchor Thursday, 4. December 2008, 11:53:34

Presto 2.2 and Opera 10 — a first look

Today marks another exciting milestone release for Opera. The newest version of our core rendering engine—Opera Presto 2.2—has been finalised, and we have issued a public release of it inside the first alpha of Opera 10. In this article, Chris Mills focuses on the new web standards support available inside Opera Presto 2.2.

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By HaJotKEXBanned User anchor Thursday, 4. December 2008, 12:04:30

avatarThe given link "alpha version of Opera 10" is leading only to the old V9.62 browser version, because you left out the closing slash in "http://www.opera.com/browser/next", it should read http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ I assume... :D

By andreasbovens O anchor Thursday, 4. December 2008, 12:15:27

avatarThe link should work with or without closing slash. Might have been a temporary hiccup - can you try again, HaJotKE?

By HaJotKEXBanned User anchor Thursday, 4. December 2008, 12:29:17

avatarNo, doesn't work here, I am always ending up automatically on http://www.opera.com/browser/
M/B it's the immediately (i.e. W/O any intermediate blank) following comma?

By andreasbovens O anchor Thursday, 4. December 2008, 12:37:58

avatarStrange... I've added a closing slash, just in case - should work now.

By besh303 anchor Thursday, 4. December 2008, 15:35:51

avatarStill no css border-radius support? Any "roadmap" in this matter? :smile:

By thedjtm2 anchor Friday, 5. December 2008, 00:06:06

avatarI love it. Finally online applications are working nicely in Opera!

I also like that it automatically kills hung up plug-ins.

By the way - where's the 64-Bit Linux version???

By andreasbovens O anchor Friday, 5. December 2008, 11:10:16

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Originally posted by thedjtm2:

By the way - where's the 64-Bit Linux version???


http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/10.0-Alpha-1/

By andreasbovens O anchor Friday, 5. December 2008, 12:46:31

avatarIt seems like certain types of web fonts are not applied and default styling is shown instead - we're currently looking into this issue.

By thedjtm2 anchor Friday, 5. December 2008, 16:24:04

avatarThanks!

By scarby421 anchor Saturday, 6. December 2008, 02:07:02

avatarHi there Chris.
To see how much easier this is compared with traditional APIs, consider this example HTML fragment:
Typo "The end tags for input omitted" Thanks a lot regards Don. :cool:

By dorward anchor Saturday, 6. December 2008, 10:27:42

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Originally posted by scarby421:

Typo "The end tags for input omitted"



In the current version of HTML, the end tag for input elements must be ommited (since the element is defined as EMPTY).

The example might be improved by a comment that in the real world (i.e. not a simplified example) label elements are highly desired (especially on checkboxes since they have tiny click targets).

By scarby421 anchor Saturday, 6. December 2008, 22:23:26

avatarSorry, I must be missing something!

By mandalareopens anchor Monday, 8. December 2008, 08:56:36

avatarWhat happens to the downloaded fonts - are they installed permanently, or just cached?

By georgianamorton anchor Tuesday, 9. December 2008, 12:57:38

avatarThe new Opera Presto is really a wonderful Christmas present! I've already spend some time testing it and so far I'm very happy with the available features. Thank you so much for such a well-designed tool.

By andreasbovens O anchor Wednesday, 10. December 2008, 10:01:35

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Originally posted by mandalareopens:

What happens to the downloaded fonts - are they installed permanently, or just cached?


They are just cached.

By Fleshgrinder anchor Monday, 23. March 2009, 08:18:38

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Originally posted by besh303:

Still no css border-radius support? Any "roadmap" in this matter? :smile:


I'm also interested in the fact when Opera will support this feature. Firefox and Safari still have it (I know, not standard compatible but here is where Opera could point again).

Any infos on this?

Kindest regards

By andreasbovens O anchor Tuesday, 24. March 2009, 15:20:18

avatarFleshGrinder, besh303 - border-radius will be supported from Presto 2.3 onward (ie after Opera 10, which is Presto 2.2 based).

By Fleshgrinder anchor Tuesday, 24. March 2009, 21:59:59

avatarIt's a pity that it won't be implemented in Presto 2.2 but it's great to hear that this feature is going to be supported with the next release - can't wait to get my hands on the final Opera 10 version *drivel*. :smile:

Kindest regards

By EagleMKD anchor Friday, 31. July 2009, 09:54:27

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Originally posted by andreasbovens:

border-radius will be supported from Presto 2.3 onward (ie after Opera 10, which is Presto 2.2 based).


Really glad to hear that ^^

By mogmios anchor Sunday, 25. October 2009, 07:05:16

avatarI just tried the 10.10 beta. It still doesn't support border-radius. It has a web server but still can't render several high demand CSS elements? It's starting to sound like a M$ product.

By Frenzie anchor Sunday, 25. October 2009, 10:13:25

avatarWhat high demand CSS properties would those be, other than border-radius?

By haavard O anchor Sunday, 25. October 2009, 16:17:51

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Originally posted by mogmios:

I just tried the 10.10 beta. It still doesn't support border-radius. It has a web server but still can't render several high demand CSS elements? It's starting to sound like a M$ product.


Opera 10.10 still uses Presto 2.2, so that shouldn't be surprising at all. Presto 2.2 does support many open Web technologies that others don't, but it is not the latest version of the engine. Later versions contain huge improvements in many different areas, but they are not available to the public yet.

By the way, I would appreciate it if you could keep such inflammatory comments to yourself in the future. There is no need to be rude.

By tigerhawkvok anchor Friday, 20. November 2009, 22:05:56

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Originally posted by haavard:


Opera 10.10 still uses Presto 2.2, so that shouldn't be surprising at all. Presto 2.2 does support many open Web technologies that others don't, but it is not the latest version of the engine. Later versions contain huge improvements in many different areas, but they are not available to the public yet.



Going by http://my.opera.com/dragonfly/blog/scope-protocol-specification#comment9599557 , it sounds like 2.3 is finished -- any ideas why it's not in 10.10?

By haavard O anchor Saturday, 21. November 2009, 23:37:09

avatarDesktop is going straight to 2.4. Using Presto 2.3 would just delay that.

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